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As Peavy trade talks continue, Rob Neyer writes an Interesting article on Peavy and his Petco numbers versus road numbers.

I say of course his numbers are slightly better, but who's shouldn't be in a pitcher friendly park. But pitcher friendly park or not, a K is K. Yeah, he'll give up more homers, but at least you know you're getting a pitcher who's not going to strain his ribcage (again).

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99 strikeouts at home, 67 away

White jerseys are playing more of a factor than anything.

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by Axion on Dec 15, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

Neyer hates the Padres

I really like Neyer’s articles, but he does have a bias against the Padres. He will even contradict himself, like saying Padres pitchers are only good b/c of PETCO, but the Padres hitters are just bad and the park has nothing to do with it. He made the same argument when we played at the Q.

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by Sammy G on Dec 15, 2008 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

Strikeouts are affected by park. PetCo is a good strikeout park.

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by Richard Wade on Dec 15, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

I am not so sure of that

I think it is just that the Padres have had good pitching, and also a high strikeout lineup.
Therefore, many games at Petco have high strikeout numbers.

by strummer on Dec 15, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

There are ways to correct for that

If that were the case then these same players would strikeout just as often on the road, but they don’t. Some ballparks aren’t as easy as others to pick up the ball so they lead to more strikeouts. Petco Park is one of them. It’s not a huge factor, but its there.

I ♥ Trent Edwards' groin

by Wonko on Dec 16, 2008 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

2008 Padres

hitters
H: 3073 PA, 620Ks
A: 3171 PA, 639Ks

pitchers
H: 762 IP, 589Ks
A: 696 IP, 511Ks

by strummer on Dec 16, 2008 6:57 AM PST up reply actions  

You are selectively sampling here

You are only choosing the 2008 Padres, but the stadium has been open for 5 years. You also didn’t include any numbers for other teams. Also, this stuff has already been calculated, I’m sure if you did some internet digging you could find the park factor for Petco Park’s strikeouts. This really isn’t a point I’d care to argue, it’s already been proven.

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by Wonko on Dec 16, 2008 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

In some instances it might be true,

A pitcher might be more likely to challenge a hitter in a spacious park.
But I think a bigger factor is the Padres having strikeout pitchers and high strikeout hitters.

by strummer on Dec 15, 2008 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The same strikeout pitchers and strikeout hitters play on the road as well.

by R. Lankford on Dec 15, 2008 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes,.......

But their road strikeouts get divided up amongst many different parks.

by strummer on Dec 16, 2008 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Neyer is also the genius

who suggested that Josh Bard got hurt because he tried to block Pujols to save his manhood, and not, say, because he’s a catcher and that’s his job. For someone who is supposed to be so smart, he says some things sometimes that make you wonder if he ever watches baseball.

Padres till the bitter end

by sdgaucho on Dec 15, 2008 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

he says that about ...

every catcher in that situation. So it wasn’t a Padres bias thing.

by brewer090 on Dec 15, 2008 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

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