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Peavy's agent suggests a trade to the Giants or Yankees

Padres can't afford to keep ace Peavy; but can they afford to trade him?

Peavy's agent had this to say about the failed deal:

“The Padres asked too much. There might have been four or five total teams in baseball (that could assume Peavy's contract). ... The powers that be are going to have to be a little more objective about their strength in negotiating.”

Apparently Peavy was exasperated and his agent doesn't want to be involved in negotiations until the deal is done and Peavy can decide whether or not to veto.  Peavy should have just been open to any trade this entire time and then vetoed the ones he didn't want, at least that way the Padres would have leverage.

His agent suggest that they try to move Peavy to the Giants or to the Yankees.

“He's not a total free agent like (CC) Sabathia was,” Axelrod said of Peavy. “So maybe he'd only get $150 million. ... (But) Jake's a guy who's not going to be intimidated by New York.”

Regarding the Giants: “I think they've got the money. But I don't know if they've got the prospects.”

Peavy has just worn out all of his good will by making it so painfully obvious that he doesn't want to have anything to do with the Padres now.  He's is going to be miserable here next season.  Can't wait to see those commercials where he's urging fans to come out to the ballpark.

“There's been somewhat of an arc of emotions,” Axelrod said. “When they first told Jake they needed to do this, he was irritated. ... It's slowly evolving into: 'If this franchise is going to run at a bargain basement (payroll), maybe it's best for me to be elsewhere.' ...

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Peavy and his agent can go fuck themselves.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 12, 2008 12:03 AM PST reply actions  

Wait, Wait, Wait

Peavy’s agent is complaining that the Padres were asking too much for his client?

Isn’t he basically saying that he doesn’t think that his client is worth as much as the team that’s trying to get rid of him think he’s worth?

If I was a ballplayer and my agent said that, he’d get bitchslapped so hard his grandma would feel it.

"Whoa... You can't say stuff like that!"
"I get it Chief. I'll play ball. You just gotta blow the whistle and call the fouls. Alright?"

by Wonko on Dec 12, 2008 1:09 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Good point.

www.PadsAndEnds.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Dec 12, 2008 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He's is going to be miserable here next season

can you blame him? just look at post one.

Jake Peavy has not done anything but sign an extension through his prime years, at the infamous “San Diego Discount” mind you.

This is Kevin Towers doing.
This is Sandy Alderson’s doing.
This is John Moores doing.
This is Becky Moores doing.
This horror show has nothing to do with Jake Peavy, except the fact that his name is attached, though no fault of his own.

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by wrveres on Dec 12, 2008 1:14 AM PST reply actions  

Jake's just gonna have to play ball

It’s his no trade clause that was the problem here. Either say, “Don’t trade me,” or be quiet. Don’t subtract leverage from the Padres. Make your call after a deal is reached in principle between the partners and they come to you for approval. What kind of jerk comes into tentative trade talks and says, No, you can’t have Yunel Escobar in a trade for me.?

Instead we got, ‘Make me a Brave, or a Cub. Maybe a Yankee. Wait, don’t trade me to a team you’re going to rape for talent, I don’t want to be on a shit team like this one.’ Not to mention all the other disparaging remarks he and his agent have made throughout the process.

Welcome home, Jake.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?

by Axion on Dec 12, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

interesting ..

i don’t remember Jake saying any of that. His agent might of made a few comment’s, but not Jake.

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by wrveres on Dec 12, 2008 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The agent speaks on his client’s behalf.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Ideally.

www.PadsAndEnds.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Dec 13, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

How can you not put some blame on Peavy? He asked to be traded, then was very specific about who he would go to and which players were involved. I don’t care if he signed an extension at the San Diego discount, what I care about is that he doesn’t want it to stand for anything anymore. I respect a no-trade clause when a player doesn’t want to be uprooted, but in my opinion, once a player asks to be traded, that no-trade clause should be thrown out the window.

by 'Eaters on Dec 12, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

One slight problem...

The Padres approached Jake about a trade so they could have more payroll flexibility…not the other way around..

by Grey Suit on Dec 12, 2008 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm tired today so I don't want to look this up, maybe someone can chime in

Didn’t Jake start talking about wanting to go to a contender before the Padres confirmed they were slashing payroll? Didn’t Jake play the “everyone wins” card (I go to a contender, you slash payroll)? Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

by 'Eaters on Dec 12, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

This is correct

as the team started to crater in mid-August, Jake started to float the idea of not wanting to stick around for rebuilding.

by Phantom on Dec 12, 2008 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

He still is the one

who brought it up first in the media. And saying “well, ya know, I’d be open” is tantamount to saying that he didn’t want to suffer through sucky years.

by Phantom on Dec 12, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes Tower and Pads got the SD discount

which makes Peavy valuable trade bait. And yes fcuking tired of hearing about how horrible these several weeks of negotiations are on him, while he is making 11 mil this year. Hey, divorces happen occasionally and players get traded every so often.

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana"
Groucho Marx

by planetjeffy on Dec 12, 2008 2:39 AM PST reply actions  

So Peavy's agent just came out and said

that Peavy’s contract is a large burden that most teams can’t afford? Wow. Bold negotiating tactic by Mr. Axelrod there. Not often you see an agent come out and say his player is making too much money.

by benrb on Dec 12, 2008 4:19 AM PST reply actions  

I got the vibe

Tha he wasn’t speaking about Peavy’s current contract… I think he was implying that, because peavy’s got the no-trade clause, he’s going to expect to renegotiate immediately upon a trade being accepted. If there’s no renegotiation, there’s no trade.

by pjbno4 on Dec 12, 2008 5:57 AM PST up reply actions  

wow
So maybe he’d only get $150 million.

what a douche Axelrod is. why don’t you tell that to the hundreds of thousands of people who are getting their @sses foreclosed upon, you complete f_ckstick.

if you’re an agent, you gotta have at least a shred of tact. this prick has none.

pooping not

www.wellbelowthemendozaline.blogspot.com

by justdave on Dec 12, 2008 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

feel that i should clarify

i think his sentiment is right. i just think that was an awful thing to get quoted saying right now.

pooping not

www.wellbelowthemendozaline.blogspot.com

by justdave on Dec 12, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

San Diego discount heroism

My understanding of Jake’s ‘San Diego discount’ has more to do with limited number of years (beyond arbitration years ‘bought out’) that he required, not so much the salary. Correct me if I’m wrong.

by Billy Almon on Dec 12, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

Jake has signed two contracts
4 years/$14.5M (2005-08), plus 2009 club option
3 years/$52M (2010-2012), plus 2013 club option

The first bought out at least one of his free agency years and could not really be considered a San Diego discount since it was a play by Jake to avoid losing money in arbitration if he got injured.

The second is only slightly less than market value (when compared to Zambranos contract) except that it bought out the 2009 option which was pretty cheap ($8M), but it increased to $11M with performance incentives. I guess someone could convince me that there is a San Diego discount here, but it would really be nitpicking. At most the discount is in the $2M-$4M range.

That 2013 club option is $22M, which is in no way a discount, but I don’t think the Padres ever intended to pay that.

On an interesting side note, Cots Contracts also says this about Jake’s second contract (which doesn’t really kick in until 2010):

full no-trade clause for 2010, may block trades to 14 clubs in 2011 and 8 clubs in 2012 (also earns 10-and-5 rights in 2012)

Looks like he gets easier to trade in 2011 and even more so in 2012 (until Jun 22 when he earns the full no trade clause again).

"Whoa... You can't say stuff like that!"
"I get it Chief. I'll play ball. You just gotta blow the whistle and call the fouls. Alright?"

by Wonko on Dec 12, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't Trade Jake

at least right now, if he performs “normally”, we can get just as much for him in July and at the end of 09. His value isn’t going down, so I agree KT should try to get max value from him

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " ~Frank Sinatra

by Sammy G on Dec 12, 2008 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

man, how do you

come back here and play at 100% after all the BS thats happened over the last month or so. just seems to me it’d be difficult to give it your all after everything thats gone on.

guess thats why theyre the professionals…

pooping not

www.wellbelowthemendozaline.blogspot.com

by justdave on Dec 12, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It could seem that way

But who can accuse Jake Peavy of not giving it his all, even once? We all know Jake better than that, he’ll give it his all and kill himself in the process if it means winning. “He’s a competitor.”

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?

by Axion on Dec 12, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus, if he really wants out, playing poorly isn’t going to make him a more attractive to other clubs.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 12, 2008 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

oh no i completely agree with you

i don’t think he’d do it intentionally. the only person thats ever intentionally sucked and raised his trade value is Vince Carter.

i’m just saying subconsciously, its gotta be difficult.

pooping not

www.wellbelowthemendozaline.blogspot.com

by justdave on Dec 12, 2008 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Stupid Subconscious

Screw you Freud!!!!

"Whoa... You can't say stuff like that!"
"I get it Chief. I'll play ball. You just gotta blow the whistle and call the fouls. Alright?"

by Wonko on Dec 13, 2008 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

is that an upside down Padres logo as your icon?

if not, then clearly you’re okay with the direction of the team and see no need for change

by 'Eaters on Dec 13, 2008 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I, for one, haven't turned on him.

I’ve hated his guts all along; you could look it up.

www.PadsAndEnds.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Dec 13, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

for the record i called his agent

D-Bag-Tabulous. not Jake.

pooping not

www.wellbelowthemendozaline.blogspot.com

by justdave on Dec 13, 2008 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He hired the guy and I have to imagine he knows what comments his agent is making publicly.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ideally.

www.PadsAndEnds.blogspot.com
"jbox does not drink coffee, as it makes him clean house big time." ~Kev

by TheThirdGonzalez on Dec 13, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

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