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How's Sandy Alderson doing as CEO?

I'm a little surprised when people have been commenting about Sandy Alderson being a "baseball genius".   I haven't seen the results at all so far at the Major League level.  Maybe it just takes more time for his vision to be realized, but then why is he given credit for bringing the Padres a NL West title in his first year?

From what I've seen in his tenure he's ruled over a Padres franchise that has played nothing but mediocre baseball in the first several years to absolutely atrocious baseball last year.  The general entertainment level has been low, but the teams have had their moments.

Those that point to his years of success with the A's in the late 80's as proof of his genius are reaching or living in the past.  Unless he invented steroids I'm not sure what he did that was so great with those teams. As Hoffman can probably tell you now, past performance doesn't earn you a thing in the present.

I think Alderson is a logical guy and tries to make good business decisions, but for being such a smart guy he absolute terrible in the Public Relations department and often comes off very condescending. I like the fact that he makes himself available to the media though, the transparency is great and I'm glad we aren't being fed the smooth talk from slimey marketing exec.  Complain about him all you want but at least he is willing to take questions and you get to hear the answers straight from the horses mouth.

I admit I laughed when he took over and all the Padres marketing hyped the Front Office instead of the players.  He's not shy and not afraid to display his ego.  I guess the photos in the Padres magazines and television commercials worked though because there is at least a portion of the fan base that have placed their loyalty in the Padres offices instead of on the field. Nothing wrong with that, there are different types of fans.

I don't have anything against the Front Office but I'm a baseball fan and I like the game as it is on the field.  The execs can keep their numbers, their budgets and negotiations.  They've taken so much focus off the field, the Padres, the game itself and for me some of the enjoyment.

I know a lot of fans like to play GM and make hypothetical business decisions that's why Fantasy Baseball Leagues are so popular.  Personally I don't get it, but to each his own.

I'm curious to see how you would grade Sandy Alderson's performance since becoming a CEO.

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Grade Sandy Alderson's Performance as CEO of the Padres
A
11 votes
A-
2 votes
B+
10 votes
B
17 votes
B-
13 votes
C+
9 votes
C
27 votes
C-
20 votes
D+
21 votes
D
18 votes
D-
9 votes
F
68 votes

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Alderson's impact on the major league team

I don’t think we have yet to see Alderson make a true impact on the major league team. So really his grade some be “INC”.

However, we have heard him make an impact in the media and I doubt anyone will give him a passing grade in that regard.

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by Wonko on Nov 11, 2008 2:39 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I concur with and rec every bit of what you just said.

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by TheThirdGonzalez on Nov 11, 2008 11:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would citing his successes

in the past be considered “reaching” or “living in the past”. When people bitch about current Padres teams, they point to the ‘98 and ’96 teams, and yet that’s not living in the past. Pointing to his past successes is simply a logical thing to do when your assessing someone’s ability. Past performance tends to be a pretty reliable indicator of future ability. Otherwise, why would we even look at stats in baseball?

And I really don’t understand this notion that the Padres’ winning teams were mediocre. The 2006 team was damn good and the Cardinals just happened to get hot at the right moment. Who knows how that series plays out if Mike Piazza catches the foul ball before Pujols puts it over the fence? But because he didn’t, this is somehow proof that Alderson is overrated as a baseball exec?

Sorry, but I do think he’s a baseball genius. He’s methodical and he’s had success in the past. For all of Sandy’s faults, he’s always been honest about his plans and has executed them faithfully. You can’t accuse him of lurching from signing to signing à la Ned Colletti. He has a plan that he’s executing and the farm is improving. 2005 – 2007 was a good set of years.

by Phantom on Nov 11, 2008 2:52 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

B

I don’t give Sandy credit for the NL West title we won his first season (2005) considering he was officailly hired in April thus giving him no offseason time. But I think he was brought here to build up the minor leagues, increase our chances for foreign players & have the major league team be competitive in the process. The minor leagues are much stronger now, we were major players in the foreign draft & 2 of the 3 seasons he has been here we’ve been competitive. So I’d say B but possibly higher if Moores didn’t order this payroll to be slashed this season.

by SDPads_1 on Nov 11, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Quote from article regarding Sandy's hiring....

Moores said one reason he hired Alderson is because he wasn’t happy with the franchise’s farm system and its baseball academy in the Dominican Republic.

"There are opportunities that we missed," Moores said.

by SDPads_1 on Nov 11, 2008 3:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This city

needed a guy to run through the mud even when the sun was shining. Sandy is doing a pretty good job of being the guy that everyone likes to hate.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?

by Axion on Nov 11, 2008 3:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How many threads about this are we going to have?

Ron Rivera. Change we can believe in. YES WE CAN!

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 11, 2008 3:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Now that Hoffman is gone

we need to give you something to bitch about. Oh how I missed your moaning.

by jbox on Nov 11, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I never miss his moaning.

I just muffle it with a pillow.

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by TheThirdGonzalez on Nov 11, 2008 11:04 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Alderson.

I can think of three significant contributions since he came here.

1. Turned out farm system from a joke to the top half and is continuing to improve.

2. Turned our presence in the Dominican and surrounding areas from nothing to the best in baseball

3. Make significant inroads into the Far East Market

Ron Rivera. Change we can believe in. YES WE CAN!

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 11, 2008 3:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

(recommend)

Ron Rivera. Change we can believe in. YES WE CAN!

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 11, 2008 4:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

double rec

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?

by Axion on Nov 11, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just tried to rec this

and realized that I already did last night.

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by TheThirdGonzalez on Nov 12, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll wait until Alderson

actually brings a good team before I fall all over myself patting him on the back.

by jbox on Nov 12, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

jbox...

If you are judging completely on the major league team then sure I can see your point of view to an extent but that seems extremely narrow minded in my opinion. How can you ignore the progressive direction in which he has taken the organization as a whole. This in my mind is where the “Moneyball” philosophy is genius. Alderson took over a mid to small market franchise and instantly started attacking inefficiencies in the organization. How can a small market or even a mid market team compete in the current baseball marketplace without an advanced scouting department and little to no presence in the Domincan Republic or other countries abroad? The short answer is you can’t. The simple fact that he attacked this area of the organization first really earns a lot of my respect. You can’t build a nice house on a crappy foundation and not expect it to eventually collapse. By building up a system and a pipeline that can and has started to supply cheap talent for the big league team he has effectively taken a huge disadvantage of our market size down to almost even with a majority of the teams in the league.

I also look at the philosophy of maximizing draft picks on free agent players lost and targeting rehabbing pitchers who want to build value in a pitchers park. Whether you want to give Alderson credit on these is an arguable debate but it’s definitely a positive part of his regime that has made this organization better. The amount of extra picks we have attained to bolster the minor league system is pretty remarkable.

Alderson has been here what 4 seasons or so? How many horrible years have we had out of the last 4? I only count 1. Now I’m not going to sit here and say that he is the reason that we have fielded decent teams up till this year because I know guys like Kevin Towers play a big role in that, but to act like Alderson has been sitting on his thumb making stupid decisions during his time in San Diego to me is asinine. The guy has been making us a better ORGANIZATION.

If I really try hard to point the finger I look at the organization prior to Alderson. Kevin Towers was drafting Matt Bush’s, Ben Davis’s, Tim Stauffer’s, Jake Gatreau’s, Mark Phillips’s and Kevin Nicholson’s. All kinds of horrible draft picks mixed with the fact that the organization ignored latin america and the only good years came with the organization spending far more than it was making to try and win now and solidify a stadium deal. When Alderson got here the ONLY thing the Padres had going for them was new park. I believe we are now a respectable organization and built with a solid foundation that will help us succeed in the future all while up until this year being competitive within the division.

Side Note – Who predicted 99 losses this season? I was thinking we were a mid 80- win team pre-season. Things didn’t pan out, that stuff happens! I didn’t read a pre-season prediction that had us anywhere close to what happened and I read more than a few that put us if not at the top then right up near the top of the division.

Sandy isn’t scared to make tough decisions and it pisses fans off but think about the place you work. How do the people that run your company make decisions? Do they offer you a job and allow you to not respond for 4 weeks without pulling the offer back (Trevor Hoffman)? Would you be paid if you did something like say punching a storage bin caused you to injure yourself and didn’t allow you to do your job until you healed (Khalil Greene)? Probably not so I don’t have a problem running his company like a company. I know it’s a novel thought in baseball this day and age but I like it.

This is getting long and I don’t really need to justify my opinion to you nor do you yours to me. I guess all I’m trying to say is that Alderson has been put in charge of an organization or a company not just a team. When I look at the strides the organization has made underneath him I can’t be anything but pleased. Sure some of the ideas he implemented should probably have been common sense and been in place LONG LONG before Sandy got here but the fact is they were not. All I know is that the correct foundation is in place for us to succeed long term and even if Sandy were fired tomorrow the organization is better off now than it was when he got here .

by krs1 on Nov 12, 2008 11:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rec, too

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?

by Axion on Nov 11, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This grading scale

needs a Z…. minus.

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by C8LIN B on Nov 11, 2008 5:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You cant be serious...

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by CurbEnthusiasm on Nov 11, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

C-

I understand the direction Alderson is taking this ball club, and I appreciate it. I have stood up for him and Moores for a while. This ship sorely needed any direction, it needed a new captain. I guess that’s why I have never understood how Kevin Towers was allowed to keep his gig. Towers spent a decade routinely crashing this yacht into the rocks.

The A’s won four division titles, three AL pennants and a World Series during Alderson’s tenure. Billy Beane then destroyed it, but hey, thats another story. The point is I am stoked to have Sandy Alderson at the helm.It’s not so much that I don’t like Sandy Alderson’s ego though, it’s that Sandy is a baseball man, he is an inner circle guy. If there is an MLB “Star Chamber”, Sandy gets a seat. I guess you can I don’t trust him.

Whenever huge contracts get signed in MLB, not by the padres mind you, but by any other team, you will routinely hear Sandy grumbling to the media. It’s not even his team, but the media knows to go to Sandy for a quote. I guess that could be ego. When Bud Selig needed someone to cleanup and reorganize the umps, he called Sandy. Who do you think fired all those Umpires back in ’99 in an attempt to break the union?

Sandy.

link ’’They’re making a mistake if they think they’re going to resign and still umpire,‘’ said an official privy to Selig’s thinking. He added that barring a change in that thinking, Selig will accept the resignations and wish the umpires well in their future careers. ‘’Richie is looking for something he’s not going to get. Bud and the owners will see this as a chance to get rid of Richie and break the union.‘’. Phillips is counting on baseball’s experience with replacement umpires to prompt Selig and Sandy Alderson, who has been the point man in umpiring matters, to negotiate a deal by Sept. 2.

Just a week or so back, there was an interview in the UT about Moores divorce, about how everyone in baseball appreciates the fact that he puts MLB itself, before his team. I can’t find the link now, but it was around the same time that Bud came out with his praise too.
"He brings great leadership in a lot of really important areas," Selig said of Moores before last night’s World Series game at Citizens Bank Park. "He’s had a great history the last decade. And I would not like to lose that leadership. "He’s very important. He’s been on all of the important committees. He’s been involved in all things. When I tell you he’s been a really constructive force in this sport, I am not exaggerating."

well yeah, because John Moores is hands off, and he lets Buds pal Sandy control everything.

"I expect to be consulted but I’m highly confident that from here on out, personnel decisions will be his," the owner said.

don’t get me wrong, San Diego gets repaid in kind.

link Alderson was influential in bringing the semi-finals and championship game of the inaugural World Baseball Classic to San Diego in March of 2006.

its all inner circle stuff.

Something else. I have never heard of an MLB team refusing to pay a player for an injury. Maybe I am wrong, I certainly haven’t researched it. I know it hasn’t happened in San Diego. When Sandy Alderson was pressed on this exact issue today, " ..whether this has happened before in the MLB", Sandy avoided answering he question. I think that Alderson is doing this maybe as a test case. The CBA is coming soon.

I could be wrong, but no, I don’t trust the guy.

I thought I would be okay with that, if the results were ok. The result being a ring.

but i don’t know anymore.

i give him a C- so far.

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by wrveres on Nov 12, 2008 2:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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