Alderson won't say why contract was withdrawn from Hoffman
by jbox on Nov 11, 2008 1:41 PM PST
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Just got back from watching the Veterans Day Parade down town on the Pacific Coast Highway. Saw Jerry Coleman in the lead Jeep wearing an American Flag cap waiving to the spectators. Excellent parade. The way the UT described the lack of spectators and interest couldn't have been more wrong from what I saw. People were lined up 3 or 4 deep on each side of the street clapping the entire time as Veterans passed by. At the conclusion of the Parde it was a Veterans Day lunch with Dex. Good stuff.
On the drive home I was listening to Coach and the Bull Dog interview Tom Krasovic of the Union Tribune. He has talked to Alderson and wrote about in his blog.
"Let's just see how things progress," Alderson said Tuesday morning. "I expect to meet with Trevor, assuming that he continues to want to do so, but beyond that I'm not going to comment."
Pressed on the subject, Alderson said, "Let's just see how things progress."
Tom says that although there is a chance Hoffman isn't gone, that the Hoffman camp has suggested that there is almost no possibility of him returning.
Hoffman's request to meet with Moores certainly didn't go over well with the Front Office:
"I don't think it's appropriate for John to be involved in contract negotiations," Alderson said Tuesday. "Their original request was that Trevor and his agent meet with John. That's simply not how we do things."
Alderson refused to answer the question as to why the contract offer was withdrawn from Hoffman.
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of the time, I would agree with Sandy on this. Moores shouldn’t be involved. We don’t need a Tom Hicks. I get that. But this is your guy. This is the guy that has carried the franchise mantle since Tony retired. To just outright deny Trevor this respect is short-sighted, in my opinion.
I’m not trying to keep railing my point home here, but this is one of those situations where Alderson has publicly made comments that make him look like an ass. “That’s simply not how we do things” is dismissive and condescending.
by Phantom on Nov 11, 2008 1:54 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
So what should he have said?
And I don’t mean that rhetorically because I’ve been on the “Sandy Comes Off Like An Ass” bandwagon, too. I’m not sure what else he should say here, though. And while I think those of us around here are likely to say “Arrogant prick” because we break down nearly every word the guys says, I think the average fan is going to read that and go “Oh. Maybe Trevor will be back. Cool.” I know we’re nitpicking and COMPLETELY guessing at this point, but all of this sounds to me like a kneejerk reaction from Moores with Alderson and Towers attempting to not burn the bridge and figure out how to make it all work. If all of this was Alderson’s doing, why would he talk about potentially meeting with him? Wouldn’t it be more like Sandy to say “We’ve moved on. Next question.” if it was something he was really on board with?
by Winfield's Ghost on Nov 11, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
No doubt that we're guessing
but I still think this reads as pretty dismissive. As for why he would be saying “maybe things will still happen”, I think the team badly misread the tea leaves on fan reaction to this. It’s been pretty much wall to wall outrage, especially since Trevor has always appeared to be generally upstanding and respectful. This guy is the spiritual leader of the team and they chopped off negotiations at th knees.
Plus, if they were going to continue to have meetings, why pull the contract off the table? Either the Padres are sending mixed messages (which could be as you suggest, Moores wants one thing while Sandy and KT want something else), or one of these two facts is stretching the truth.
I find it interesting
that Alderson “expects” to meet with Trevor now, after rescinding the offer, when perhaps a meeting with him before taking the offer off the table may have prevented this situation. But maybe that’s just not how they do things…
Could be worse... could be the offseason.
Keep in mind Hoffy's done this before....
Hoffman and his agent played things horribly last time he was a free agent and vowed not to return to the Padres only to go back on their word and return. I wouldn’t put it past them if it happened again. I think the 4 million dollar offer is reasonable except I would have thrown a buyout on his option so he gets a little more guaranteed money without hurting this years team budget to much.
This is the part
where the two suits write numbers on scraps of paper and slide them back and forth to each other across an expensive desk made of a rare imported Mediterranean stone. It may take a month, and we’re going to want to smack both of them, but in the end, they will shake hands.
I still think Trevor starts the ’09 season with the Friar.
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
I think you're probably right
They may not like each other, but each provides the most attractive option for the other at the moment.
by Winfield's Ghost on Nov 11, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
Hoffy needs the Padres and the way things are turning out the Padres need Hoffy next season.
Trevor's Agent Speaks
The Associated Press reports free-agent CL Trevor Hoffman (Padres) is upset with the way the San Diego Padres handled his situation, according to his agent, Rick Thurman. Hoffman was upset with the impersonal way that the team ended contract negotiations. “Trevor’s unhappy with the way they’ve dealt with the situation,” Thurman said. “I think if they didn’t want him back, they should have just said they want to go a different direction, go younger, or, ‘Listen, we’re going to cut payroll,’ and sit down and have a man-to-man, face-to-face talk with him. I think he deserves that respect. Any player deserves it, but this is Trevor Hoffman. He’s meant a lot to that organization.” Thurman said general manager Kevin Towers told him that there were unhappy people in the organization after the details of the team’s offer was reported in the media. Because of the way the situation ended, Thurman believes it is highly unlikely that Hoffman will return to the team in 2009.
Sounds to me like the Padres pulled back the offer because they thought the agent leaked the details to the media. I think it’s fair to say the Padres wouldn’t want to negotiate such a deal through the media, so maybe therein lies the conflict. That, and the Padres not giving any chat time to Trevor.
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