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Wally Joyner was the best first baseman in the history of ever

I found this post advocating Wally Joyner for the Hall of Fame over on Baseball Think Factory. I'll tell you right now. It's awesome. Unfortunately, it's the only thing on the blog. I'm hoping that we get even more analysis like this. I don't usually sink my teeth into all of the hubbub and statistics, but this stuff is like the second coming of Bill James. Suck on this Baseball Prospectus!

Some highlights:

Despite the fact that Tony Gwynn and Trevor Hoffman have been (Or were) Padres their entire baseball careers, and despite the fact that the Padres later acquired players like Phil Nevin and Ryan Klesko, the Padres have never returned to the World Series since the time they had a healthy Wally Joyner.

That's fairly significant.
On his character:
Wally Joyner was something of the epitome of a good baseball character. He was described all around, by teammates and writers alike, as truly a great guy and a guy who gave baseball 100%. I think he also gave money to charities.
On his admitting to receiving steroids from Ken Caminiti:
As for the actual cheating? Well, it was in Spring Training, and probably wore off, given that Joyner only hit 12 home runs that year. Joyner certainly wasn't taking steroids to cheat, but only for medical reasons; and, of course, steroids are used relatively frequently in hospitals for, you guessed it, medical reasons. That doesn't make what he did right, but there's certainly a fine line between Wally Joyner and, say, Jose Canseco.

And it's not like Joyner's not sorry about the whole thing.
Like I said, awesome.

I wish there was more, but for now, I'll be advocating Wally "The World" Joyner for the Hall of Fame.

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Can't tell if you're joking or if Baseball Think Factory is joking.  And Hoffy hasn't been a Pad for his entire career.  Wally should go to the Hall of the Very Good.
Caldo

by caldo on Dec 30, 2006 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

Trade with Florida
We got Hoffy in a trade with the Marlins.  He earned two of his saves with them and the rest with the Padres.  He was part of a deal in which the big name was Gary Sheffield leaving the Padres
Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by TheRevRun on Dec 30, 2006 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Steriods=
No HOF...doesnt matter if they came clean or that they didnt make him hit 50 HRs. There can be no grey area in this matter.

by Mikegedup on Dec 30, 2006 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

Joyner
A few years ago, I made a strong argument, if I do say so myself, that the Gary Gaetti, Greg Gagne, Jose Lind, Wally Joyner infield of the 1993 KC Royals was the best defensive infield of all-time.

by RoyalsFan on Dec 30, 2006 5:27 PM PST reply actions  

MVP
It's all about the MVP's.  Joyner should have won 3 MVP's.  That makes him a lock for the Hall.  It's so obvious that's why everyone is missing it.

by p dawg on Dec 30, 2006 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

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